Posts by Nathan Natas

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Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?

by flipper in

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from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.

beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.

i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .

Nathan Natas

Talesin, one of my many "ALMOST claims to fame" is that I went to the same Jr. H. S. that Chaim Witz went to. Although he is less than one month younger than me, I think he was a year ahead of me in school. I didn't know Chaim for the same reason I didn't know anyone else in any of my schools - it was forbidden.

Today I have great admiration for him; he has been far more successful than any of the JW kids I grew up with, he has his head screwed on straight and his family is awesome - far more so than most of the JW families I knew.

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Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?

by flipper in

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friends

from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.

beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.

i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .

Nathan Natas

In my own case, my excursion into Dub-automaton-ism was so complete that I was self-regulating*; when I heard the music of Led Zeppelin or Cream or The Doors or Jefferson Airplane, I *knew* it was demonic.

"I was so much OLDER then, I'm YOUNGER than that now."

*I am not proud of this; I was an idiot.

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Mentally challenged DF

by James Mixon in

there was a df of a mentally challenged young man he sexually assaulted a young girl.. in jesus day people were possessed by demons but we know today they had mental issues.. do you know of any cases where a mentally challenged person was df.. the case that i mention the young man was 18-20 years old and it was a case where he was.

functional, school, friends and was baptized.

i knew the family and if you didn't know he was a. typical teenager.. my question, if a mentally challenged person is able to answer the questions to qualify to be.

Nathan Natas

I agree with Doubtfully Yours. If a person is not competent to enter into a binding legal contract, what miracle of Jehovah's Magic spirit permits them to dedicate their life to the WTB&TS?

IF Jah's Magic Spirit is SO POWERFUL, where was it when this fellow got an erection?

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Something isnt quite right.

by atomant in

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l was wondering if others get the feeling that the world we live in seems not quite right.l can not pin point anything specific but since childhood days l often get the feeling something isn;t correct.you know the feeling of deja vu.

am l the only one to feel this way?ld love to hear from others and any storys they may have.having been raised in the jdubs maybe lm just suffering mild bouts of paranoia .

Nathan Natas

Re: the feeling that something isn't quite right.

I'm assuming you are serious. If you are, there are two possibilities:

1. Something in the world outside yourself has changed,

or

2. Something has changed inside you that affects your perception of the world.

See:

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/body-odd/phantom-smells-may-be-sign-trouble-f1C9926312

http://symptomchecker.webmd.com/multiple-symptoms?symptoms=dizziness%7Cstrange-smell-or-taste&symptomids=81%7C574&locations=2%7C6

https://experiencelife.com/article/5-gut-instincts-you-shouldnt-ignore/

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/19-signs-thyroid-working/story?id=20100212

Please don't ignore your feeling, see a health care professional.

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Why facts fail to reach the faithful, (even the intelligent ones)

by done4good in

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i posted this on another thread, and decided it deserves its own...thoughts?.

an unfortunate artifact of evolution is that belief can, and often does trump fact.

survival is at the core of what belief is about.

Nathan Natas

Darkknight 757 said, "...To believe that Gods original purpose will be fulfilled seems reasonable if we put our trust in the story of Adam and Eve."

That's the story with the talking snake, right?

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According to YouTube Egyptian bethel closing and special pioneer's

by Crazyguy in

according to you tubers mike and kim and son of thunder, egyptian branch closing.

son of thunder is saying he has relatives that we're running bethel in egypt for years and they have been let go reassigned as special pioneers yet according to him this job no longer pays a wage.

he also states that 5000 total bethelites world wide are being let go.

Nathan Natas

TheOldHippie posted, "Very interesting since there is no such thing as an Egyptian Bethel and never has been. The work is strictly forbidden and there is no such thing as special pioneers in that country. The handfull of JWs are VERY strictly monitored and keep an extremely low profile."
This is what I thought immediately upon reading the SUBJECT line!

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Finally posting and I'm FRUSTRATED!!!

by stephanie61092 in

okay, i'm about to engage in a major word vomit.

just giving you fair warning as your time may be better spent somewhere else.. so, i'm sitting on my lunch break, bawling my eyes out, and writing on this forum to people i don't know yet probably have a great deal in common with but at the same time, used to scare the daylights out of me.

for years, i would come across this forum and 'lurk' awhile if you will, or see things on youtube.

Nathan Natas

Stephanie61092 explained, "...Growing up, I never really had much of a relationship with Jehovah and didn't really understand how that worked..."

That's because you CANNOT have a "relationship" with a sock-puppet!

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My boyfriend is thinking of becoming reinstated

by gypsyvine in

i'm not really sure where to post this.. i've been with my boyfriend for 4 months now and i've really never been happier.

i was brought up in the church of christ with an elder father and i really believe in my religion, although i will admit to being a lousy christian at times due to sheer laziness (not wanting to get out of bed on sunday).

my boyfriend essentially lives with me.

Nathan Natas

You need to read this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5083023288565760/finally-posting-im-frustrated

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My boyfriend is thinking of becoming reinstated

by gypsyvine in

i'm not really sure where to post this.. i've been with my boyfriend for 4 months now and i've really never been happier.

i was brought up in the church of christ with an elder father and i really believe in my religion, although i will admit to being a lousy christian at times due to sheer laziness (not wanting to get out of bed on sunday).

my boyfriend essentially lives with me.

Nathan Natas

First of all... this is not your fault.

You were raised in a religion that the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, in its doctrinaire hegemony, proclaims is DEMONIC. But to be fair, you're in good company, because the WTB&TS teaches that ALL other religions are demonic, and they are "the ONLY true religion."

You tell us, "I was brought up in the Church of Christ with an Elder father and I really believe in my religion."

If your boyfriend was living up to HIS proclaimed belief, he would be condemning you for your choice of FALSE RELIGION.

YOUR boyfriend is a freaking hypocrit! He keeps you as his SECRET.

Is this what you feel you WANT? Is this what you feel you DESERVE?

In his mind, he's got it made, boffing his secret girlfriend and fooling his JW friends into thinking he is on the straight-and-narrow.

Oh... wait... maybe I've got that wrong. How presumptuous of me! Maybe for four months he's been living at your place in a TOTALLY CELIBATE relationship. Sure.

You are in GREAT DANGER. If he gets reinstated, you run the risk that he will suddenly become the totalitarian cultist that is now gestating in his reptilian brain.

Four months is a short time. Dump him now and find yourself a boyfriend who has only one face and does not treat you like his secret sex tart.

You CANNOT AFFORD to gamble with your life and your mental health by betting that he is going to get reinstated and then do a fade. If you take this bet and things go wrong, you'll still be able to escape, but at a much greater cost.

SAVE YOURSELF NOW!

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Jehovah's Witnesses Training Center

by Nathan Natas in

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